Consulting Service Pulling My Chain?  
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JeanPierrePeerlings





PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 12:21:37 CDT 2005 Top

Exchange Servers Setup >> Consulting Service Pulling My Chain?

My company, a small business with >30 employees has recently decided to pull
our IT/IS needs in-house. We purchased a Dell PowerEdge server w/SBS 2003
Standard. We were going to have a consulting service take care of the initial
setup, and have one of our employees with some advanced computer knowledge
take care of the maintenence. The problem we have come up against is that we
have two online domains, lets say dom1.com and dom2.net - each of these
domains currently has email configured on an outsourced server. While the
consultants were setting it up, they called and said that with SBS 2003
Standard, it is impossible to configure it to send and receive for 2 domains.
From the research I've done it seems that it is something that can be
accomplished, and if so, this consulting service was about to have us pay for
the $1,200 software, as there is no "upgrade" available between the two
versions of SBS. I hope that this questions isn't a repeat of another, but I
couldn't find the answer to this specific question:

Is there any restriction on Windows Small Business Server 2003 Standard
edition that keeps Exchange from hosting 2 email domains?

Also:

If so, what specific difference is there between the Standard and Premium
editions that cause this void?

Hope somebody out there knows this good stuff -

Warren Dupre

Exchange Server20  
 
 
Mark





PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 12:21:37 CDT 2005 Top

Exchange Servers Setup >> Consulting Service Pulling My Chain? On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:09:44 GMT, "wdupre via WinServerKB.com"


>My company, a small business with >30 employees has recently decided to pull
>our IT/IS needs in-house. We purchased a Dell PowerEdge server w/SBS 2003
>Standard. We were going to have a consulting service take care of the initial
>setup, and have one of our employees with some advanced computer knowledge
>take care of the maintenence. The problem we have come up against is that we
>have two online domains, lets say dom1.com and dom2.net - each of these
>domains currently has email configured on an outsourced server. While the
>consultants were setting it up, they called and said that with SBS 2003
>Standard, it is impossible to configure it to send and receive for 2 domains.
>From the research I've done it seems that it is something that can be
>accomplished, and if so, this consulting service was about to have us pay for
>the $1,200 software, as there is no "upgrade" available between the two
>versions of SBS. I hope that this questions isn't a repeat of another, but I
>couldn't find the answer to this specific question:
>
>Is there any restriction on Windows Small Business Server 2003 Standard
>edition that keeps Exchange from hosting 2 email domains?
>
>Also:
>
>If so, what specific difference is there between the Standard and Premium
>editions that cause this void?
>
>Hope somebody out there knows this good stuff -
>
>Warren Dupre

Your chain is well and trully being pulled. SBS can handle as many
domains as retail Exchange. You might well have an issue with the POP3
connector if that's how you propose to get the mail from the ISP.
However, for the grand sum of 50 euro's (or so) you can get POPCON
which will replace the POP3 Connector (which is ****anyway)

If you're not running with the POP3 connector and getting all your
mail delivered direct to your server then you don't even have a
problem.

Either way you will need to create a new Recipient Policy for the
other domain. You will need to decide how you want to determine which
users get which address as primary. There are multiple ways to achieve
it, none of which take more than 10 minutes to do.
 
 
Bharat





PostPosted: Tue Oct 25 12:31:03 CDT 2005 Top

Exchange Servers Setup >> Consulting Service Pulling My Chain?
What are the major differences between the standard edition and premium
edition of Windows Small Business Server 2003?

A. ? The standard edition of Windows Small Business Server 2003
includes Windows Server 2003 technologies, including fax service, firewall
service, and remote-access service. Additionally, it includes Microsoft
Exchange Server 2003, enhanced tools for server monitoring and
administration, and an out-of-the-box solution for internal Web sites. The
standard edition is ideal for customers who do not require the higher-level
functionality included in the premium edition.


? The premium edition includes everything in the standard
edition, plus Microsoft SQL Server 2000, Microsoft Internet Security and
Acceleration (ISA) Server 2004, and Microsoft FrontPage 2003. The premium
edition is ideal for small businesses with more demanding IT needs, such as
data-intensive line-of-business applications, or advanced firewall and
Web-caching capabilities



More detailed feature comparison between std and premium edition of Small
Business Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sbs/2003/plan/sbsfeat.mspx

- Hosting 2 email domains requires creating a separate Recipient Policy that
will generate email addresses for all users or a subset using new domain
- A registered domain name and a DNS zone for that domain accessible from
the Internet, for small companies this is best left to a service provider.
Some domain registrars offer these services themselves, or you can look at
providers like EasyDNS (www.easydns.com). In the new zone, you will need an
MX record that points to your existing mail server.
- If there's no requirement for separating Address Books (and Public
Folders) for both domains, it's not very complicated to setup.
--
Bharat Suneja
MCSE, MCT
www.zenprise.com
blog: www.suneja.com/blog
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> My company, a small business with >30 employees has recently decided to
> pull
> our IT/IS needs in-house. We purchased a Dell PowerEdge server w/SBS 2003
> Standard. We were going to have a consulting service take care of the
> initial
> setup, and have one of our employees with some advanced computer knowledge
> take care of the maintenence. The problem we have come up against is that
> we
> have two online domains, lets say dom1.com and dom2.net - each of these
> domains currently has email configured on an outsourced server. While the
> consultants were setting it up, they called and said that with SBS 2003
> Standard, it is impossible to configure it to send and receive for 2
> domains.
> From the research I've done it seems that it is something that can be
> accomplished, and if so, this consulting service was about to have us pay
> for
> the $1,200 software, as there is no "upgrade" available between the two
> versions of SBS. I hope that this questions isn't a repeat of another, but
> I
> couldn't find the answer to this specific question:
>
> Is there any restriction on Windows Small Business Server 2003 Standard
> edition that keeps Exchange from hosting 2 email domains?
>
> Also:
>
> If so, what specific difference is there between the Standard and Premium
> editions that cause this void?
>
> Hope somebody out there knows this good stuff -
>
> Warren Dupre


 
 
Lanwench





PostPosted: Wed Oct 26 08:59:44 CDT 2005 Top

Exchange Servers Setup >> Consulting Service Pulling My Chain?



> My company, a small business with >30 employees has recently decided
> to pull our IT/IS needs in-house. We purchased a Dell PowerEdge
> server w/SBS 2003 Standard. We were going to have a consulting
> service take care of the initial setup, and have one of our employees
> with some advanced computer knowledge take care of the maintenence.

Sounds good.

>
> The problem we have come up against is that we have two online
> domains, lets say dom1.com and dom2.net - each of these domains
> currently has email configured on an outsourced server. While the
> consultants were setting it up, they called and said that with SBS
> 2003 Standard, it is impossible to configure it to send and receive
> for 2 domains.

Not true. Perhaps they misunderstood your question or you misunderstood
their reply.

> From the research I've done it seems that it is
> something that can be accomplished, and if so, this consulting
> service was about to have us pay for the $1,200 software, as there is
> no "upgrade" available between the two versions of SBS. I hope that
> this questions isn't a repeat of another, but I couldn't find the
> answer to this specific question:

SBS or no, Exchange can handle mail for multiple domains. The issue you may

defined as email addresses in her mailbox, she can receive mail to both, but
can send mail only as whatever the default SMTP address/domain is set to -
this is usually not that big a deal. If she needs to be able to send as both
domain1 & domain2 addresses, see www.ivasoft.biz and look at ChooseFrom.

>
> Is there any restriction on Windows Small Business Server 2003
> Standard edition that keeps Exchange from hosting 2 email domains?

No.
>
> Also:
>
> If so, what specific difference is there between the Standard and
> Premium editions that cause this void?

That isn't the right comparison. Premium is Standard but also includes ISA
and SQL, which you likely don't need. (get a good hardware firewall
appliance regardless).
>
> Hope somebody out there knows this good stuff -
>
> Warren Dupre

How much experience does this consulting firm have with SBS? I ask only
because SBS is its own beast, and if you don't set it up the way it wants to
be set up, you'll have problems. It expects to be set up using its wizards,
not the way you'd set up a non-SBS AD/Exchange environment. You can skip a
few of the wizards (I don't use the one that creates users) but make sure
these people have experience with SBS installs.....

Also: don't use the (or any) POP connector. You don't need to, even if you
don't have a static IP.
See http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF002.html for info on hosting your
own mail - which you can do in SBS, but again, they need to run the wizard
for this.
For multiple domain hosting: http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF010.html
For dynamic IPs, see www.dyndns.org or one of the many other companies out
there that offer dynamic DNS accounts.
I also use Dyndns for backup - see their "MailHop BackupMX" service. It's
quite affordable.

Other items:
You don't mention your hardware specs; good to look at those to make sure
you have what you need
Make sure you get a good UPS
Get good central antivirus - check out www.trendmicro.com for the
Client/Server/Messaging Suite for SMB (small/medium businesses) for one
option I like.

I suggest you post future SBS questions in
microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs - you should get a lot of replies in
there; it's a chatty group.