CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam  
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Noemi





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20 08:13:10 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam

They're getting around the update notification now that most of us have
figured it out. I got a message from MS purporting to be an undeliverable
mail notice. Antivirus caught it and (or but) I would have dumped it anyway
as I *don't* get this from MS; my ISP sends such notices.

Another one is that Microsoft is not the only "sender" in the From column.
Again caught but would have been deleted.

Malv

Windows XP424  
 
 
Nicholas





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20 08:13:10 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam You did not receive an update notification from Microsoft. You
received a virus-laden email message from a devious imposter!

A devious imposter is "spoofing" Microsoft and attempting to deceive you
into installing a malicious VIRUS in your computer! Delete the VIRUS
laden message immediately!

Microsoft never sends file attachments with email messages!

Please take a moment to read the following articles:

Information on Bogus Microsoft Security Bulletin E-mails
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=3D/technet/secu=
rity/news/patch_hoax.asp

How to Tell If a Microsoft Security-Related Message Is Genuine
http://www.microsoft.com/security/antivirus/authenticate_mail.asp


--=20
Nicholas

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| They're getting around the update notification now that most of us =
have
| figured it out. I got a message from MS purporting to be an =
undeliverable
| mail notice. Antivirus caught it and (or but) I would have dumped it =
anyway
| as I *don't* get this from MS; my ISP sends such notices.
|=20
| Another one is that Microsoft is not the only "sender" in the From =
column.
| Again caught but would have been deleted.
|=20
| Malv
|=20
|
 
 
Max





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20 08:20:36 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam I've been suddenly getting about 100 messages a day on security updates,
botched emails from virus senders. Coincidently, this started happening the
same day I signed up for Micrososft's security update newsletter.

-M




> They're getting around the update notification now that most of us have
> figured it out. I got a message from MS purporting to be an undeliverable
> mail notice. Antivirus caught it and (or but) I would have dumped it
anyway
> as I *don't* get this from MS; my ISP sends such notices.
>
> Another one is that Microsoft is not the only "sender" in the From column.
> Again caught but would have been deleted.
>
> Malv
>
>
>


 
 
Malvern





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20 08:31:05 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam How well I know this. I posted as I did to save space. I've sent out the
same advice many posts ago. Ever hear of what "assume" equals when broken
up ? Has to do with a donkey. Guess I made myself one :-/

Malv



You did not receive an update notification from Microsoft. You
received a virus-laden email message from a devious imposter!

A devious imposter is "spoofing" Microsoft and attempting to deceive you
into installing a malicious VIRUS in your computer! Delete the VIRUS
laden message immediately!

Microsoft never sends file attachments with email messages!

Please take a moment to read the following articles:

Information on Bogus Microsoft Security Bulletin E-mails
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
news/patch_hoax.asp

How to Tell If a Microsoft Security-Related Message Is Genuine
http://www.microsoft.com/security/antivirus/authenticate_mail.asp


--
Nicholas

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------




| They're getting around the update notification now that most of us have
| figured it out. I got a message from MS purporting to be an undeliverable
| mail notice. Antivirus caught it and (or but) I would have dumped it
anyway
| as I *don't* get this from MS; my ISP sends such notices.
|
| Another one is that Microsoft is not the only "sender" in the From column.
| Again caught but would have been deleted.
|
| Malv
|
|


 
 
CWatters





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20 13:57:31 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam Only 100. I got 1400 yesterday and counting today

--
Delete BOX to get my real email address


> I've been suddenly getting about 100 messages a day on security updates,
> botched emails from virus senders. Coincidently, this started happening
the
> same day I signed up for Micrososft's security update newsletter.
>
> -M
>
>


> > They're getting around the update notification now that most of us have
> > figured it out. I got a message from MS purporting to be an
undeliverable
> > mail notice. Antivirus caught it and (or but) I would have dumped it
> anyway
> > as I *don't* get this from MS; my ISP sends such notices.
> >
> > Another one is that Microsoft is not the only "sender" in the From
column.
> > Again caught but would have been deleted.
> >
> > Malv
> >
> >
> >
>
>


 
 
Sharon





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20 19:15:18 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam

> How well I know this. I posted as I did to save space. I've sent out the
> same advice many posts ago. Ever hear of what "assume" equals when broken
> up ? Has to do with a donkey. Guess I made myself one :-/

No you did not do that. You posted a valid warning about another email
guise (returned email) that the virus is attached to. Considering the
amount of email volume this worm is generating, I don't think an extra
warning (or two or three!) is out of place. Thanks for caring and for
posting this.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP - Windows XP Shell/User
 
 
Malvern





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20 21:24:58 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam Read Sharon's reply to my second post above, the reply to Nicholas. I think
your information should go out as an original post. As she said, all
information is valuable here.

Malv



> I've been suddenly getting about 100 messages a day on security updates,
> botched emails from virus senders. Coincidently, this started happening
the
> same day I signed up for Micrososft's security update newsletter.
>
> -M
>
>


> > They're getting around the update notification now that most of us have
> > figured it out. I got a message from MS purporting to be an
undeliverable
> > mail notice. Antivirus caught it and (or but) I would have dumped it
> anyway
> > as I *don't* get this from MS; my ISP sends such notices.
> >
> > Another one is that Microsoft is not the only "sender" in the From
column.
> > Again caught but would have been deleted.
> >
> > Malv
> >
> >
> >
>
>


 
 
W





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20 22:36:59 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam



>
> > How well I know this. I posted as I did to save space. I've sent out
the
> > same advice many posts ago. Ever hear of what "assume" equals when
broken
> > up ? Has to do with a donkey. Guess I made myself one :-/
>
> No you did not do that. You posted a valid warning about another email
> guise (returned email) that the virus is attached to. Considering the
> amount of email volume this worm is generating, I don't think an extra
> warning (or two or three!) is out of place. Thanks for caring and for
> posting this.
>
> --
> Sharon F
> MS-MVP - Windows XP Shell/User

If I could just find a way to STOP them, I have tried message rules, but
when you make one rule the subject or sender changes and it come through
again. I finally got Mail Washer, but it's a pain to have to run it and then
download the mail. But better than 300 phoney virus laden messages a day.

Wendy


 
 
sli





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20 23:01:19 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam
>
> If I could just find a way to STOP them, I have tried message rules,
> but when you make one rule the subject or sender changes and it come
> through again.
>
Make a rule to block all messages with attachments, and delete the messages
from the server.


 
 
Tom





PostPosted: Sat Sep 20 23:16:25 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam > Make a rule to block all messages with attachments, and delete the
messages
> from the server.

delete messages from the server does nothing on my system

Tom Lake


 
 
William





PostPosted: Sun Sep 21 07:38:08 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam Folks, I have a dumb question:
These slobs who create and disseminate these viruses....
Exactly what do they get out of this, just the pleasure
of knowing that they have created malice?
W B L
****************************************





> >
> > > How well I know this. I posted as I did to save space. I've sent out
> the
> > > same advice many posts ago. Ever hear of what "assume" equals when
> broken
> > > up ? Has to do with a donkey. Guess I made myself one :-/
> >
> > No you did not do that. You posted a valid warning about another email
> > guise (returned email) that the virus is attached to. Considering the
> > amount of email volume this worm is generating, I don't think an extra
> > warning (or two or three!) is out of place. Thanks for caring and for
> > posting this.
> >
> > --
> > Sharon F
> > MS-MVP - Windows XP Shell/User
>
> If I could just find a way to STOP them, I have tried message rules, but
> when you make one rule the subject or sender changes and it come through
> again. I finally got Mail Washer, but it's a pain to have to run it and then
> download the mail. But better than 300 phoney virus laden messages a day.
>
> Wendy

--

William B. Lurie


 
 
Ken





PostPosted: Sun Sep 21 10:06:17 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam


> Folks, I have a dumb question:
> These slobs who create and disseminate these viruses....
> Exactly what do they get out of this, just the pleasure
> of knowing that they have created malice?


Each slob undoubtedly gets his kicks in his own way, but in
general what you surmise is probably true for most of them.

--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup

 
 
Max





PostPosted: Sun Sep 21 10:19:29 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam That's kinda like asking, "what's the deal with terrorists?" ;)

The thing is, I don't have problems with viruses, because I update my
software regularly, update my virus scanner, and don't run files from people
I don't know anything about. I also backup important data. My company has a
preorganized plan to get back up quickly if there is ever a problem -- hard
drive crash, human error, or even a virus.

So my answer is who cares? If you get a virus, you're dumb. Get over it.

-M




> Folks, I have a dumb question:
> These slobs who create and disseminate these viruses....
> Exactly what do they get out of this, just the pleasure
> of knowing that they have created malice?
> W B L
> ****************************************


 
 
Malvern





PostPosted: Sun Sep 21 10:44:27 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam


> > Make a rule to block all messages with attachments, and delete the
> messages
> > from the server.
>
> delete messages from the server does nothing on my system
>
> Tom Lake
>
It worked here. I made new rules using the *not* option for all wanted
senders, then selecting "Delete from server". I got ONE message this AM, a
wanted one. I did this once: Be sure to Apply (two times; second time
should get a notification of successful application), otherwise they won't
go into effect.

Malv



 
 
GSV





PostPosted: Sun Sep 21 10:31:38 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam

>Folks, I have a dumb question:
>These slobs who create and disseminate these viruses....
>Exactly what do they get out of this, just the pleasure
>of knowing that they have created malice?

It's just electronic vandalism .. what do people get out of smashing
phone booths, or scribbling on walls or tube trains? I guess the answer
is 'attention'.

--
GSV Three Minds in a Can
Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.
 
 
Steve





PostPosted: Sun Sep 21 12:04:05 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam Could somebody please send me this virus as I'm feeling a little left out
here. Never had a virus before and don't get these bogus emails either.



> They're getting around the update notification now that most of us have
> figured it out. I got a message from MS purporting to be an undeliverable
> mail notice. Antivirus caught it and (or but) I would have dumped it
anyway
> as I *don't* get this from MS; my ISP sends such notices.
>
> Another one is that Microsoft is not the only "sender" in the From column.
> Again caught but would have been deleted.
>
> Malv
>
>


 
 
AliceW





PostPosted: Sun Sep 21 12:44:04 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam Be careful what you wish for!

--
Alice in NJ
www.our****family.us
"In prosperity our friends know us; in adversity we know our friends."
John Churton Collins






> Could somebody please send me this virus as I'm feeling a little left out
> here. Never had a virus before and don't get these bogus emails either.
>


> > They're getting around the update notification now that most of us have
> > figured it out. I got a message from MS purporting to be an
undeliverable
> > mail notice. Antivirus caught it and (or but) I would have dumped it
> anyway
> > as I *don't* get this from MS; my ISP sends such notices.
> >
> > Another one is that Microsoft is not the only "sender" in the From
column.
> > Again caught but would have been deleted.
> >
> > Malv
> >
> >
>
>


 
 
Jim





PostPosted: Sun Sep 21 13:09:00 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam Since he posted what appears to be a valid email address he
will get some, I only get them on one account that I use for
"public" purposes.

Nice thing about the free Hotmail, after a dozen 144 KB
viruses the account is full.

I'm getting about 1 per hour now.




| Be careful what you wish for!
|
| --
| Alice in NJ
| www.our****family.us
| "In prosperity our friends know us; in adversity we know
our friends."
| John Churton Collins
|
|
|
|


| > Could somebody please send me this virus as I'm feeling
a little left out
| > here. Never had a virus before and don't get these bogus
emails either.
| >


| > > They're getting around the update notification now
that most of us have
| > > figured it out. I got a message from MS purporting to
be an
| undeliverable
| > > mail notice. Antivirus caught it and (or but) I would
have dumped it
| > anyway
| > > as I *don't* get this from MS; my ISP sends such
notices.
| > >
| > > Another one is that Microsoft is not the only "sender"
in the From
| column.
| > > Again caught but would have been deleted.
| > >
| > > Malv
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|


 
 
Steve





PostPosted: Sun Sep 21 13:47:04 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam Ah, see, it isn't my email address. This is why people get viruses via
email. They give out their address like there's no tomorrow and wonder why
they get bogus emails.



> Since he posted what appears to be a valid email address he
> will get some, I only get them on one account that I use for
> "public" purposes.
>
> Nice thing about the free Hotmail, after a dozen 144 KB
> viruses the account is full.
>
> I'm getting about 1 per hour now.
>
>


> | Be careful what you wish for!
> |
> | --
> | Alice in NJ
> | www.our****family.us
> | "In prosperity our friends know us; in adversity we know
> our friends."
> | John Churton Collins
> |
> |
> |
> |


> | > Could somebody please send me this virus as I'm feeling
> a little left out
> | > here. Never had a virus before and don't get these bogus
> emails either.
> | >


> | > > They're getting around the update notification now
> that most of us have
> | > > figured it out. I got a message from MS purporting to
> be an
> | undeliverable
> | > > mail notice. Antivirus caught it and (or but) I would
> have dumped it
> | > anyway
> | > > as I *don't* get this from MS; my ISP sends such
> notices.
> | > >
> | > > Another one is that Microsoft is not the only "sender"
> in the From
> | column.
> | > > Again caught but would have been deleted.
> | > >
> | > > Malv
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>


 
 
jvaqbjf_kc_sna





PostPosted: Mon Sep 22 21:52:46 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam

> Since he posted what appears to be a valid email address he
> will get some, I only get them on one account that I use for
> "public" purposes.
>
> Nice thing about the free Hotmail, after a dozen 144 KB
> viruses the account is full.
>
> I'm getting about 1 per hour now.

Hence I started doing what I call drastic measures.

I have been getting around 120 to 200 PER DAY at my real, other email address.
NEVER again.. will I use a real email address to post.


--

/`\\\

*-------ooO---(_)---Ooo---------*
/The HEADER ADDRESS is SPAMBLOCKED\
/ ROT-13 BELOW to email me: \

\_____________________________________/


 
 
Malvern





PostPosted: Tue Sep 23 22:21:15 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam Long berfore the current problems started, I started treating my email
address as I do my snail mail address. It goes to only those it absolutely
has to. It has never appeared on any newsgroup since 1997; back then, the
privacy issues started to surface. I am taking further steps which I may
post later, once I get it written out correctly.

Malv




>
> > Since he posted what appears to be a valid email address he
> > will get some, I only get them on one account that I use for
> > "public" purposes.
> >
> > Nice thing about the free Hotmail, after a dozen 144 KB
> > viruses the account is full.
> >
> > I'm getting about 1 per hour now.
>
> Hence I started doing what I call drastic measures.
>
> I have been getting around 120 to 200 PER DAY at my real, other email
address.
> NEVER again.. will I use a real email address to post.
>
>
> --
>
> /`\\\

> *-------ooO---(_)---Ooo---------*
> /The HEADER ADDRESS is SPAMBLOCKED\
> / ROT-13 BELOW to email me: \

> \_____________________________________/
>
>


 
 
Bee





PostPosted: Thu Sep 25 17:16:33 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam


> >
> > > Since he posted what appears to be a valid email address he
> > > will get some, I only get them on one account that I use for
> > > "public" purposes.
> > >
> > > Nice thing about the free Hotmail, after a dozen 144 KB
> > > viruses the account is full.
> > >
> > > I'm getting about 1 per hour now.
> >
> > Hence I started doing what I call drastic measures.
> >
> > I have been getting around 120 to 200 PER DAY at my real, other email
> address.
> > NEVER again.. will I use a real email address to post.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > /`\\\

> > *-------ooO---(_)---Ooo---------*
> > /The HEADER ADDRESS is SPAMBLOCKED\
> > / ROT-13 BELOW to email me: \

> > \_____________________________________/
> >


"Jvaqbjk kc sna", someone who wants to email you is not prepared to spend
hours on figuring out what your real email address is! The domain name is
easy enough to guess. What, pray, is "rot-13" for? The puzzle is too
difficult to unravel; I just don't get it.

--
Bee.
(I have found my Shangri-La, at the moment, in ntlworld.)


 
 
Patrick





PostPosted: Fri Sep 26 02:44:40 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam



>>>
>>>> Since he posted what appears to be a valid email address he
>>>> will get some, I only get them on one account that I use for
>>>> "public" purposes.
>>>>
>>>> Nice thing about the free Hotmail, after a dozen 144 KB
>>>> viruses the account is full.
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting about 1 per hour now.
>>>
>>> Hence I started doing what I call drastic measures.
>>>
>>> I have been getting around 120 to 200 PER DAY at my real, other
>>> email address. NEVER again.. will I use a real email address to
>>> post.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> /`\\\

>>> *-------ooO---(_)---Ooo---------*
>>> /The HEADER ADDRESS is SPAMBLOCKED\
>>> / ROT-13 BELOW to email me: \

>>> \_____________________________________/
>>>
>
>
> "Jvaqbjk kc sna", someone who wants to email you is not prepared to
> spend hours on figuring out what your real email address is! The
> domain name is easy enough to guess. What, pray, is "rot-13" for?
> The puzzle is too difficult to unravel; I just don't get it.

Assuming your useing OE6, then focus the *gibberish* then goto 'Message'
menu, click 'Unscramble (ROT13), have all revealed to you, click same again.

ROT13 is to do with the fact that thiere are 26 (13*2) characters in
alphabet, if you count 13 characters away (in iether direction) from the
original character then you will encode/decode


 
 
Bee





PostPosted: Sat Sep 27 05:31:15 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam

>

>


> >

> > >
> > > > Since he posted what appears to be a valid email address he
> > > > will get some, I only get them on one account that I use for
> > > > "public" purposes.
> > > > Nice thing about the free Hotmail, after a dozen 144 KB
> > > > viruses the account is full.
> > > > I'm getting about 1 per hour now.
> > >
> > > Hence I started doing what I call drastic measures.
> > > I have been getting around 120 to 200 PER DAY at my real, other
> > > email address. NEVER again.. will I use a real email address to
> > > post.
> > > /`\\\

> > > *-------ooO---(_)---Ooo---------*
> > > /The HEADER ADDRESS is SPAMBLOCKED\
> > > / ROT-13 BELOW to email me: \

> > > \_____________________________________/
> >
> > "Jvaqbjk kc sna", someone who wants to email you is not prepared to
> > spend hours on figuring out what your real email address is! The
> > domain name is easy enough to guess. What, pray, is "rot-13" for?
> > The puzzle is too difficult to unravel; I just don't get it.
>
> Assuming your useing OE6, then focus the *gibberish* then goto 'Message'
> menu, click 'Unscramble (ROT13), have all revealed to you, click same
again.
> ROT13 is to do with the fact that thiere are 26 (13*2) characters in
> alphabet, if you count 13 characters away (in iether direction) from the
> original character then you will encode/decode


Thanks, Patrick. I am glad I asked. :o)

--
Bee.
(I have found my Shangri-La, at the moment, in ntlworld.)


 
 
Patrick





PostPosted: Sat Sep 27 08:20:51 CDT 2003 Top

Windows XP >> CAUTION: New wrinkles in Microsoft virus scam


>>

>>


>>>

>>>>
>>>>> Since he posted what appears to be a valid email address he
>>>>> will get some, I only get them on one account that I use for
>>>>> "public" purposes.
>>>>> Nice thing about the free Hotmail, after a dozen 144 KB
>>>>> viruses the account is full.
>>>>> I'm getting about 1 per hour now.
>>>>
>>>> Hence I started doing what I call drastic measures.
>>>> I have been getting around 120 to 200 PER DAY at my real, other
>>>> email address. NEVER again.. will I use a real email address to
>>>> post.
>>>> /`\\\

>>>> *-------ooO---(_)---Ooo---------*
>>>> /The HEADER ADDRESS is SPAMBLOCKED\
>>>> / ROT-13 BELOW to email me: \

>>>> \_____________________________________/
>>>
>>> "Jvaqbjk kc sna", someone who wants to email you is not prepared to
>>> spend hours on figuring out what your real email address is! The
>>> domain name is easy enough to guess. What, pray, is "rot-13" for?
>>> The puzzle is too difficult to unravel; I just don't get it.
>>
>> Assuming your useing OE6, then focus the *gibberish* then goto
>> 'Message' menu, click 'Unscramble (ROT13), have all revealed to you,
>> click same again. ROT13 is to do with the fact that thiere are 26
>> (13*2) characters in alphabet, if you count 13 characters away (in
>> iether direction) from the original character then you will
>> encode/decode
>
>
> Thanks, Patrick. I am glad I asked. :o)

He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
fool forever.
Chinese Proverb